The Ancient Sky Part Two

When ancient history and mythology where taught in the schools and colleges. The “gods” were depicted as living Beings much like humans with special powers.   Also, depending on whose mythology Greek, Norse, Egyptian etc the names of the gods were changed but not their essential powers and qualities… and all of the ancient stories indicate the gods fought among themselves after a period of peace, harmony and even a golden age…

We were taught to think the gods warred in the space above the Earth but Earth itself was somehow included in the war and of course suffered serious damage Including the destruction of most of the cites, villages, structures and buildings and the populations living on the planet.

The gods it seems were powerful enough to destroy the planet if they chose to.  They hurled lightening bolts, fire and even parts of other planets during their fury.

The Commencement of the Deluge exhibited 1848 by William Westall 1781-1850

It does not take long in research to understand that the “gods” were possibly both human and non-human.   Both the human gods and the non-human ones had names and designations for their place on Earth and in the sky above and they had duties they performed and were known for these things.  Names like Hera, Zeus, Thor, Horus, Isis, Ra, Apollo and a hundred other names come to mind when we think of the gods but there is more to this then the human gods, there is the non-human ones who in fact are the planets and the ancient names of the planets…  for these things were also considered gods by the ancient people. 

For thousands of years man has wondered how the ancient gods could have amassed so much power, and how could they wield it in the way they did.   To answer this question it was necessary to visit the “supernatural” realms…. In some ways this was like visiting the science fiction section in the local library, the stories were certainly entertaining but were they true?  Most likely they were not true but made up to fit facts not understood by the people in those days.  

In truth it was not until recently that such things as the power of the gods and gods themselves were understood.  

I present you with a series of facts I have gleaned; facts established by several parts of the scientific community around the world…  these facts tell a very different story about the ancient gods and the powers they wielded so long ago… in some ways the facts are more real and more frightening then the mythology stories because the evidence of the events tell us that it could happen again.

I discovered an article, which you can read below, and several videos that are the result of intensive research. 

You can view the videos (below) on this website, look  under the heading of “Videos and More”:  The Ancient Sky (Symbols of an Alien Sky) – Thunderbolts of the Gods – The Electric Universe – The Electric Universe II.

Many years ago I was taught that the planets circling the Sun are not in the same orbits they once occupied.   It has taken many years to find the proof of what I was told.  I am thankful to Michael Talbolt and company and the many dedicated men and women, scientists and non-scientist, researchers all… who have worked on the theories and information discovered and presented in these writings and videos….

The Article I referred to at the beginning follows:


Scars Of The Planetary Wars
By Michael Goodspeed

When the gods of antiquity went to war, all of mankind was held rapt in terror. The titans towered over all of creation, blasting one another with lightning and thunderbolts, and the earth shook and the heavens caught fire. The sky was the theater of this terrible strife, and to the observers below, it was the End of the World.

These were the wars of the gods, as recounted in the great epics of mythology. In his Theogony (“the origins of the Gods”), the Greek poet Hesiod described Zeus in his battles with the titans. He wrote, “For all the titans’ might, the blazing flash of thunderbolts and lightning blinded their eyes. Wondrous conflagrations spread through chaos, and to eyes and ears it seemed as though what they saw and heard was the collision of the earth and the wide sky above. For so vast a crash could only arise if earth collapsed under collapsing sky, such was the uproar of the battling gods.”


And who exactly were the Greek gods battling in the heavens? Greek astronomical traditions identified their greatest gods with (as) PLANETS, most notably Zeus as the planet Jupiter, Kronos as Saturn, and Ares as Mars.   Given what we know about the planets today, these associations with “gods” and cosmic upheaval can only appear ludicrous.  In fact, astronomers 2500 years ago noted the clocklike patterns of planets. So, “why then did ancient astronomers INSIST that in an earlier time, planets did not move on regular and predictable paths?”

This was the profound question raised by Immanuel Velikovsky more than 50 years ago. In his best selling book Worlds in Collision, Velikovsky argued that the planetary system as we know it today is NEW.  He claimed that as recently as a few thousand years ago, the earth itself was disturbed by near collisions with other planets, and the result was the devastation of ancient cultures the world over.

Velikovsky was confident that the ancient celestial dramas could be RECONSTRUCTED by identifying the points of agreement between the ancient cultures. What Velikovsky found was a widespread human memory of planets moving unpredictably and creating catastrophe. 

Worlds in Collision (book)

Worlds in Collision (book)

There is in fact a surprising consistency to the ancient record. In his “Timaeus”, Plato speaks of “a destruction of the things on the earth by fierce fire”.

He relates this world-altering catastrophe to “a shifting of the bodies in the heavens, which move ’round the earth.”  In the general Greek tradition, this “synodos” ­ or overwhelming catastrophe ­ was caused by a disturbance or “collisions” of the planets.   In the opinion of several experts (Franz Boll, Carl Bezold, Wilhelm Gundel), “The flood, the conflagration of the world, and other minor catastrophes were related to planetary motions and are to be interpreted as the result of disturbances of the movements of the planets.” (Sternglaube Und Sterndeutung (Stuttgart, 1977), p. 93.

We see surprisingly similar ideas in Taoist and Hindu teachings, in Iranian tradition, and in early Chinese astronomical sources. In the Iranian Bundahish, the “planets ran against the sky and created confusion.” In both the Chinese Bamboo Books and the Soochow astronomical chart, great catastrophe occurred when the planets moved “out of their courses.”

But Velikovsky was completely dismissed by the scientific establishment. Astronomers claimed that Velikovsky had planets behaving in a way that “defied the laws of gravity.” And in a sense, they were correct. Velikovsky did not share their confidence in the primary role of gravity in solar system history. He believed that another force ­ electromagnetism ­ once played a dominating role. And that, he said, is why the ancient accounts described heaven-shaking THUNDERBOLTS in the hands of the gods. Velikovsky was convinced that planets are charged bodies, and in episodes of instability, near approaches of planets caused devastating electrical arcs to pass from one body to another. These were the thunderbolts of the gods. 

For several decades now, a number of independent researchers have sifted through both the historical and the scientific evidence to resolve the questions first posed in Worlds in Collision. Two of these researchers, David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill, have devoted more than thirty years each to this investigation. In Thunderbolts of the Gods, they suggest that the space age has already vindicated Velikovsky, though no one would know this from reading news releases in the scientific media.

Numerous probes have sent back images of decimated planets and moons. Every moon of the gas giants Jupiter and Saturn presents violently sculpted surfaces, precisely the opposite of what astronomers had expected of small bodies that had been “cold and dead” for billions of years. Scientists remain baffled by the stark surface features on both Mars and Venus, the two planets that figure most prominently in Velikovsky’s reconstruction. The chasm of the Martian Valles Marineris would swallow hundreds of Grand Canyons, and would stretch from San Francisco to New York. Its very presence defies every expectation of planetary scientists. The planet Venus, a super heated cauldron with a surface temperature of nine hundred degrees Fahrenheit, has been completely resurfaced by forces the specialists still struggle to comprehend.

Talbott and Thornhill suggest that it is not possible to explain the surfaces of planets and moons today through any old paradigm. They claim that all of the defining features of these bodies mimic the scarring patterns of electrical discharge. It may appear as if “towering volcanoes” rise from the surface of Mars, or that great volumes of water cut the Valles Marineris. But as Talbott states, “It’s only necessary to look more closely. For instance, the great mound of Olympus Mons, and the continental scale trench of the Valles Marineris, can now be viewed in extraordinary detail. The old explanations fail, while the electrical discharge hypothesis finds astonishing new support. This is why we are urging that laboratory experiments with electric arcs be performed to determine if what we are saying is true.”

On every rocky body we’ve visited with our probes, we have encountered unexpected channels, called “rilles.” Some are merely grooves undulating across the surface, and others are highly complex. But ALL, when studied closely in their geological context, pose insurmountable mysteries for planetary scientists.


Consider, for example, this simple rille on our moon, shown on the left above. When geologists looked at the picture, they hastily identified it as a channel cut by flowing lava. They did not stop to realize that the “tributary” of the primary channel shows a feature that is NEVER true of flowing liquid.  The “tributary” connects with the channel at BOTH ENDS!   In electrical discharge, however, this is not uncommon, as seen in the picture on the right ­ a tract left by an electric arc on a dusted metallic surface.  (As a side note it has been determined that the Moon does not have volcano’s, it is not a planet and it has almost none of the features that Earth has, and it is older then the Earth by nearly a billion years!)

But there is much more to this. Electric arcs can traverse a surface in ways that are inconceivable for water — disregarding elevation. This mystery of lunar rilles was never resolved; they incessantly travel up and down! An extraordinary example of this enigma is the Baltis Vallis on Venus, extending at least 6800 kilometers across the planet’s surface. Scientists say it MUST be a lava flow, but are mystified as to how it retained a consistent width (between 2 and 5 kilometers) along its entire length. But even more mystifying is the vertical profile of Baltis Vallis, which moves UPHILL and DOWNHILL dozens of times, with an incomprehensible range of 2 kilometers from its highest to lowest points. (See Venus and the River Styx.)

Now look again at the picture of the electric arc above. Notice that down the center of the primary channel, there is a virtually continuous stream of small pits. A traveling electric arc is the only phenomenon known to produce this feature

On a different scale, you can see the same stream of pits in the 40-foot furrow cut by lightning across the infield of a baseball diamond in the picture below.


Now look at the river of small craters winding along the great channel of Schröter’s Valley on the Moon in the picture below.


Again, on seeing the stunning images of Schröter’s Valley, planetary scientists could only think of lava flows. They disregarded the river of craters or pits, because they had no knowledge of electrical discharge phenomena.

To the electrical theorists, the true cause of “cratering” in the solar system is so far from popular belief that an intellectual revolution is required to understand it. The pictures returned by our space probes have conclusively demonstrated that the force creating rilles is the same force that has created the vast majority of craters on planets and moons. Look at the lunar rille below, with its numerous craters centered right on the channel, along with several elongated, scooped-out depressions. The form of these craters is indistinguishable from the form of craters in the close vicinity of the rille:


Planetary scientists can only identify those craters as “meteoric impacts.” But in fact, way back in the 60’s, an amateur astronomer in England, named Brian Ford, noticed something very interesting about lunar craters. He said that the ratio of large to small craters matches the ratio seen in electrical arcing. Within the scientific mainstream, no one followed up on this insight. But for the electrical theorists, the pattern is only to be expected. Their laboratory experiments with electrical scarring have shown surprising similarities to cratering patterns in the solar system.

One picture at shows a complex of craters produced by an electric arc. From the Picture of the Day, Craters in the Lab: “This cratered surface duplicates many characteristics of planetary geology. The craters tend to clump according to size, to fall in lines and arcs. Notice also that the ground appears burnt or discolored where the discharge was strongest and the craters the densest — not unlike the surface of Mars and other rocky bodies in the solar system. The centers of some of the craters have raised bumps, as do many enigmatic craters on the Moon, Mars, and other surfaces. Also of interest are the dark streaks from two larger craters close to the center of the picture, a pattern similar to the ‘wind’-streaked craters found on “Mars.” 

Laboratory experiments have opened up a whole new opportunity for understanding planetary history. The recent landings of the rovers on Mars inspired one of the most revolutionary experiments to date. The rover Opportunity sent back images of a reddish-hued landscape littered with blue-grey spheres which planetary scientists called “blueberries.” Later, the rover Spirit found similar structures on the other side of Mars. It is evident that countless spheres are embedded in the Martian soil. Where these formations occur on Earth, they are called “concretions,” and the electric theorists have for years expressed confidence that they were produced in ancient times by electrical discharging.

It was this claim that encouraged plasma physicist Dr. C.J. Ransom to create a model of the Martian soil in his laboratory. The soil in which the “blueberries” occur on Mars is an iron-rich clay called hematite. In his very first experiment with an electric arc in hematite, Dr. Ransom was amazed to see the small, blue-grey spheres, impossible to distinguish from the pictures sent back by Opportunity.

In the picture below, the image on the left (Frame A) is of the Martian “blueberries,” and the three color images in the center (Frame B) are of the spherules produced in the laboratory discharge experiment.


Ransom’s experiment has profound ramifications beyond the Martian “blueberries.” One of the well-known features of electric discharge is its SCALABILITY ­ meaning that what occurs on a small scale also occurs on larger scales. The orbiting Themis cameras found craters with domes or spheres resting within them. (See Frame C in the picture above.) These are at a completely different scale than the “blueberries,” but look surprisingly similar. And the sizes range from the smallest dimensions that can be discerned with the orbiting camera (less than two hundred meters) up to greater than a KILOMETER in diameter. If these craters were caused by meteors, the “spheres” are preposterous. So the electrical discharge experiments have provided the ONLY scientific explanation for them. The only reasonable conclusion is that both the “blueberries” and the domed craters were produced by the same electrical force, acting on widely different scales.

The list of correspondences between laboratory discharge effects and planetary surface features has been enumerated through a series of “Pictures of the Day” on This includes the looping channels cut across the global surface of Jupiter’s moon Europa, the traveling “volcanoes” etching the surface of the Jovian moon , the highly filamentary hemispheric channels on Saturn’s moon Enceladus , and the so-called arachnoids dominating the entire equatorial region of Venus.

Talbott and Thornhill tell us that these planetary scars are the remnants of the ancient “wars of the gods,” when planets were immersed in electrical discharge, and exchanging cosmic thunderbolts. All of the planets and moons were, from pole to pole, re-sculpted by violent electrical activity. It is the pioneers of science who will follow the evidence to its conclusion. Wherever it may lead, the picture of space will be forever changed.


Dr C.J. Ransom’s and Wallace Thornhill’s paper on the laboratory-generated spherules was presented at the national meeting of the American Phyiscal Society, in Tampa Florida, April 17, 2005. The abstract is available at the APS website–